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fiona robyn

Wonder how we can live in a way that will mean we're more attractive to others... what does he mean by attractive? Interesting stuff, thank you.

Jeff Harrison

I look forward next month to discussing the similarities/differences between this idea of intimacy and therapeutic intimacy. Should fit in well with the theme of empathy, too. Can't wait!

Kaspalita

Thanks I've just seen this and amazingly I've been having thoughts along similar lines this week. A more realistic approach to life...

David Brazier

We had some discussion of this topis on the Friday theory day of the Buddhist psychology intensive here at Amida. There were a variety of opinions. Some people rejected the whole idea saying that intimacy depended upon honesty not attraction or trust. Others agreed with the general idea but questioned whether these are things one can do nothing about. A therapist invites to intimacy persons (clients) who have been found unattractive, unlovable and/or untrustworthy by at least some other people. Does this imply that finding somebody attractive, lovable and trustworthy is a skill that can be learnt? Or is it a function of seeing more "deeply"? Does everybody appear attractive, lovable and trustworthy from the perspective of a Buddha? Or is there something (anything) objective about these traits? Is beauty entirely in the eyes of the beholder and can the beholder do anything about his/her eyes? Clearly there is an edge in this discussion between the ideal and the actual. In the Sandokai poem it says, "With the ideal comes the actual like a box all with its lid" - does reality put the lid on our ideals? And is that a good thing or not?

Kaspalita

Perhaps we need more than one word for intimacy? There is an intimacy in the therapeutic relationship, or the minister/parishioner relationship, but there does I wonder if there is a qualitative difference between this kind of relationship and friendship and romantic partnerships?

Or perhaps there is a scale from controllable to uncontrollable, we can work with some of our own issues as a therapist in order to make ourselves more available to a variety of clients, but there also might be some intractable qualities which impede the relationships. I can think of examples of good therapists whose clients have left for a better fit (and vice versa)... a case might be made for sticking with something until you make a breakthrough in that relationship, but I also think that sometimes one does feel the need to accept the depth of ones karma and let go....

Perhaps this is more obvious in friendships where we are probably more discriminate than with clients - why would I choose to spend my leisure time with people I struggle to get on with?

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